Archive 2017-2019 Political Thread

[Kory]

Where are McCabe's text messages that the FBI were supposed to turn over? We already have seen anti-Trump and pro-Hillary texts contaminate the investigate into "Russian meddling." This goes deeper than just Strzok and Page. The FBI is obfuscating some of Strzok and Page's texts...which just so happen to belong to McCabe per Judicial Watch. This is truly a kangaroo court.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press...-statement-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe/

As far as McCabe...

 

[Kory]

At what point can the FBI be seen as capable of rendering justice? This is getting beyond embarrassing...

 

[gangstonc]

It is entertaining how everybody interprets different events based on their political leanings.

I've seen those on the left interpret the McCabe deal just as you did, and I've seen those on the right pushing that this is the start of it getting bad for the left. Same event, two completely different viewpoints.

That’s a good point. I do think that SOME of the republicans are trying to discredit the organization that is going to bring forth some harsh accusations against them. I’m a republican, but I despise trump.

Why did they vote to not release the dissenting memo? Sure seems like a political stunt to me. If you want the info and full story out there, then show both sides. Stop the partisan games.

Why did the republicans vote to refuse to let the FBI or DOJ respond?

Also today, the trump admin informed congress that last year’s bipartisan sanctions bill against Russia was not needed. Pretty fishy, huh?

 

[Arcadia]

So they forced out McCabe. They are doing everything they can to stop the investigation. Reeks of guilt.

That's pure speculation on your part. You are not privy to the details of McCabe's departure. I hold an entirely different view of the situation, yet I have no proof either. I'm waiting to find out what the facts are. His leaving may very well have something to do with this memo that the FBI Director read yesterday. But I have no idea if that's true. But I do have deductive reasoning skills and the timeline seems fishy. I don't think anyone would dare accuse me of being a Trump supporter. But I also don't view the world through the prism of red and blue, left and right, republican and democrat. Before we state what we don't know with certainty let's examine facts...wait for information to come forward...and stop listening to media biases. I listened to CNN and MSNBC today. They were all abuzz about how McCabe was 'forced out' by Trump to hide his guilt. No proof but what does that matter? Maybe...just maybe...there are other guilty parties involved here. Uhh..we've actually seen proof of that and I'm seeing a whole lot of selective outrage.

 

[Kory]

Just remember y'all, in California you can go to jail for unsolicited straw distribution. But if you discharge a stolen firearm killing someone, you get a slap on the wrist! Bastion of justice!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...s-requested-under-california-bill/1074610001/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/30/kate-steinle-s-accused-killer-found-not-guilty-murder.html

 

[Kory]

That’s a good point. I do think that SOME of the republicans are trying to discredit the organization that is going to bring forth some harsh accusations against them. I’m a republican, but I despise trump.

Why did they vote to not release the dissenting memo? Sure seems like a political stunt to me. If you want the info and full story out there, then show both sides. Stop the partisan games.

Why did the republicans vote to refuse to let the FBI or DOJ respond?

Also today, the trump admin informed congress that last year’s bipartisan sanctions bill against Russia was not needed. Pretty fishy, huh?

LOL that's a good joke.

 

[gangstonc]

That's pure speculation on your part. You are not privy to the details of McCabe's departure. I hold an entirely different view of the situation, yet I have no proof either. I'm waiting to find out what the facts are. His leaving may very well have something to do with this memo that the FBI Director read yesterday. But I have no idea if that's true. But I do have deductive reasoning skills and the timeline seems fishy. I don't think anyone would dare accuse me of being a Trump supporter. But I also don't view the world through the prism of red and blue, left and right, republican and democrat. Before we state what we don't know with certainty let's examine facts...wait for information to come forward...and stop listening to media biases. I listened to CNN and MSNBC today. They were all abuzz about how McCabe was 'forced out' by Trump to hide his guilt. No proof but what does that matter? Maybe...just maybe...there are other guilty parties involved here. Uhh..we've actually seen proof of that and I'm seeing a whole lot of selective outrage.

That’s a good point. I spoke too soon.

 

[gangstonc]

LOL that's a good joke.

I’ve voted for two democrats in my entire life. I just don’t lean as right as most on this board.

Do you care to answer any of my other questions? Or do you just want to discuss my beliefs?

 

[Kory]

I’ve voted for two democrats in my entire life. I just don’t lean as right as most on this board.

Do you care to answer any of my other questions? Or do you just want to discuss my beliefs?

LOL no one is discussing your beliefs. I’m just skeptical of this facade you put on to seem unbiased in the relentless Trump conjectures.

 

[gangstonc]

LOL no one is discussing your beliefs. I’m just skeptical of this facade you put on to seem unbiased in the relentless Trump conjectures.

I cannot stand Trump. He is the least favorite of my politicians, ever. I’ll admit it.

Now, do you care to talk about the sanctions or not realeasinf the democrats memo?

 

[Kory]

I cannot stand Trump. He is the least favorite of my politicians, ever. I’ll admit it.

Now, do you care to talk about the sanctions or not realeasinf the democrats memo?

Oh no doubt, the optics look bad with regards to both the Congress passed sanctions and blocked Democrat memo. There needs to be transparency...you won't see me argue against that. But now that FBI biases have been exposed (see the Strzok and Page texts....and it isn't even all of them), it has permanently tarnished the reputation of the FBI being at the pinnacle of justice at the federal level. There will be no way this Mueller investigation comes to anything conclusive. It has been torpedoed from their own undoing and from exterior factors.

But enough of the "this reeks of guilt" or "he's guilty" because that's ALL speculation.

 

[gangstonc]

Oh no doubt, the optics look bad with regards to both the Congress passed sanctions and blocked Democrat memo. There needs to be transparency...you won't see me argue against that. But now that FBI biases have been exposed (see the Strzok and Page texts....and it isn't even all of them), it has permanently tarnished the reputation of the FBI being at the pinnacle of justice at the federal level. There will be no way this Mueller investigation comes to anything conclusive. It has been torpedoed from their own undoing and from exterior factors.

But enough of the "this reeks of guilt" or "he's guilty" because that's ALL speculation.

Fbi biases? They were removed from the Russia case. It certainly appears as Nunes has more biases. He was supposed to recuse himself. Read the transcripts that have been released and see what you think about him.

Now, if you want to investigate The way the FBI handled Hillary, I think that’s a good idea. I bet she paid some people.

If you look at the available records on Trump, I don’t see how you think he isn’t in bed with the Russians. If you see how he instructed the response to the trump tower meeting, that’s unlawful. His handling of Comey was unlawful. It’s pretty obvious.

I think it is possible they are just trying to delay the trump and mueller interview.

 

[KoD]

I personally don't care very much about the entire Russian meddling thing. Russians didn't vote, we did. They definitely played a part in influencing the outcome, but if people are gullible enough to ignore the obvious major character deficits of our current president, and for some ridiculous reason think he's trustworthy, then I can only applauded the Russians for giving us the reality check we need. The establishment Democrats and the general left wing public should've foreseen Hillary's demise. Many did, which is why even Sanders gained so much momentum, being a self proclaimed "democratic socialist" in one of the most capitalistic countries on Earth.
Nope, don't really care about the Russians meddling with Trump... I mostly care about his failure to be even a mildly decent roll model and what that will mean for our future. Perhaps a couple more years of Trump and we'll really be ready to drain the swamp!

 

[gangstonc]

I think we would be pretty much in the same situation with Hillary. Trump got help from the Russians, which is illegal. I also think Hilary also did a lot of illegal things such as her foundation and her emails. We didn’t have a choice. I’m confident the dems would be standing beside Hillary the same as the r’s are standing behind trump.

 

[gangstonc]

One of two things is happening - there is deep seeded corruption in the fbi, or trump is trying to dismantle the fbi in order to protect himself.

I guess It could also be a little of both.

 

[Kory]

One of two things is happening - there is deep seeded corruption in the fbi, or trump is trying to dismantle the fbi in order to protect himself.

I guess It could also be a little of both.

^^^^ What I bolded and underlined. The amount of corruption at the federal level is dreadful.

Just another potential side to this mess:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/26501/andrew-mccabe-set-meeting-leaked-cnn-which-led-ryan-saavedra

 

[Arcadia]

I cannot stand Trump. He is the least favorite of my politicians, ever. I’ll admit it.

Now, do you care to talk about the sanctions or not realeasinf the democrats memo?

It's my understand NO ONE has read the democrat's memo, which was 'sprung last night', in the words of Paul Ryan. So why would they vote to release it at this time? You can't really have it both ways. You can't release information that could be harmful without knowing what you're releasing just because the other side is pissed off. It needs to be read first. Agreed? I mean, isn't that the argument the dems are making? Classified information is getting out that could be harmful? But at least it's been read, evaluataed, and voted on before they just release it. But the deomocrat's memo shouldn't be given the same scrutiny? Does it not contain the same national security threat? I would love to see what the democrats have to say in response. And I'm sure we'll see it. In due time.

 

[gangstonc]

It's my understand NO ONE has read the democrat's memo, which was 'sprung last night', in the words of Paul Ryan. So why would they vote to release it at this time? You can't really have it both ways. You can't release information that could be harmful without knowing what you're releasing just because the other side is pissed off. It needs to be read first. Agreed? I mean, isn't that the argument the dems are making? Classified information is getting out that could be harmful? But at least it's been read, evaluataed, and voted on before they just release it. But the deomocrat's memo shouldn't be given the same scrutiny? Does it not contain the same national security threat? I would love to see what the democrats have to say in response. And I'm sure we'll see it. In due time.

I hope you are right.

 

[Kory]

Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM.N) plans to invest billions of dollars in the United States due in part to recently approved corporate tax rate cuts, the company’s chief executive said on Monday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...vestments-due-to-tax-reform-ceo-idUSKBN1FI2LS

Apple on Wednesday made a slew of announcements about its investment in and contribution to the U.S. economy in part because of the new tax law.

The headline from Apple is that it will make a $350 billion "contribution" to the U.S. economy. The company also promised to create 20,000 new jobs and open a new campus.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/17/apple-announces-350-billion-investment-20k-jobs-over-5-years.html

 

[Matt Grantham]

Apple on Wednesday made a slew of announcements about its investment in and contribution to the U.S. economy in part because of the new tax law.

The headline from Apple is that it will make a $350 billion "contribution" to the U.S. economy. The company also promised to create 20,000 new jobs and open a new campus.

It is no secret that Apple has been avoiding paying taxes for years. They played the waiting game and finally got what they wanted from Congress. This is little more than a PR move.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/apple-build-2nd-campus-hire-20000-350b-pledge-52411277

"Apple has earmarked about $75 billion of the money currently overseas to finance $350 billion in spending during the next five years. The spree will include the new campus, new data centers and other investments.

But most of the $350 billion reflects money that Apple planned to spend with its suppliers and manufacturers in the U.S. anyway, even if corporate taxes had remained at the old 35 percent rate.

Analysts have also predicted that most of those overseas profits will flow into stock buybacks and dividend payments. That's what happened the last time a one-time break on offshore profits was offered more than a decade ago."