Idabel, OK in November 2022 was rated EF4.You're correct about it being the 2016 Katie tornado.
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Idabel, OK in November 2022 was rated EF4.You're correct about it being the 2016 Katie tornado.
gah that is right. I for some reason remember that outbreak being chiefly Texas but Idabel was hitIdabel, OK in November 2022 was rated EF4.
I don't think that one actually caused EF4 damage in Oklahoma?Idabel, OK in November 2022 was rated EF4.
Oop you're right. I only see EF3 DIs on the Oklahoma part of the track.I don't think that one actually caused EF4 damage in Oklahoma?
You're right. That outbreak completely skipped my mind. The Powderly EF4 that same day also tracked into OK, but neither tornado are included in OUN's list of violent tornadoes in Oklahoma, I'm guessing because they remained below EF4 intensity while in OK. Seems like kind of a gray area.Idabel, OK in November 2022 was rated EF4.
I've always stood on the working principle that what you hear in the first 30 minutes to an hour from a damage scene needs to be taken with a heavy dose of caution, even if it's coming from well-meaning first responders that aren't trying to be misleading, just because of how chaotic everything is. But within the last few years, we've seen a sheriff in Florida after Hurricane Ian try to report on TV of "hundreds dead" while knowing as he was saying it that it was an intentional exaggeration, we've seen just today the governor of Oklahoma report that Sulphur, OK had been rated EF4 or higher when that wasn't the case. It's getting to where even reports from what should be trustworthy officials like that need to be taken with a dose of caution until things are solidified directly from NWS survey teams on ground, EMA officials, etc.I don’t chime in a lot because I’m nowhere near as knowledgable as all of you. However, I really want to discuss how much it irritates me when people claim towns are “gone” or “destroyed” in the moments after a disaster.
I live in Tuscaloosa county and during the 2011 tornado I was in a bomb shelter on campus with my then newborn daughter. She was too little to go to a more public shelter so I was hanging out there. My parents and siblings were in the shelter located in the mall (the mall on the videos that the tornado went right next to if you’ve never been here).
A guy ran in saying the mall and hosptial were completely destroyed. The last text from my family said they were in that mall.
For 30 minutes I was an absolute trainwreck trying to get in touch with them through damaged cell towers. They were ok. The mall didn’t even take a direct hit. None of that was necessary. Just please everyone watch your wording. We all love watching the wonders of nature, but when there’s a catastrophe you HAVE to take into account who is seeing your posts or hearing your words. Inducing panic in an already bad situation is cruel.
Ok sorry. Rant over.
Exactly. I understand people are hyped up, and first responders see some crazy stuff when leaping into search and rescue.. it’s just insane to automatically start spouting out deaths and absolute destruction before there’s been time to see if it’s accurate. Then again it seems there is a lack of tact nowadays and people are more concerned with views and attention than the emotions of those impacted who are stuck and unable to locate family. It’s all just a mess.I've always stood on the working principle that what you hear in the first 30 minutes to an hour from a damage scene needs to be taken with a heavy dose of caution, even if it's coming from well-meaning first responders that aren't trying to be misleading, just because of how chaotic everything is. But within the last few years, we've seen a sheriff in Florida after Hurricane Ian try to report on TV of "hundreds dead" while knowing as he was saying it that it was an intentional exaggeration, we've seen just today the governor of Oklahoma report that Sulphur, OK had been rated EF4 or higher when that wasn't the case. It's getting to where even reports from what should be trustworthy officials like that need to be taken with a dose of caution until things are solidified directly from NWS survey teams on ground, EMA officials, etc.
Probably a good idea if you don't want to start a massive flame war. Just sayin'Nevermind, gonna keep that one too myself
Yeah… we already have that resident guy who insists major tornado outbreaks are a thing of the past according to his arbitrary criteriaProbably a good idea if you don't want to start a massive flame war. Just sayin'
My stance is somewhere in the middle between yours and buckeye's. But if anyone is dying to know more, let's take it to DM's.I apologize for my poor post. It's deleted
Wow! That's crazyMy stance is somewhere in the middle between yours and buckeye's. But if anyone is dying to know more, let's take it to DM's.
Completely unrelated note, but I found a 1990's German Army hat at the thrift store yesterday.
Nevermind, gonna keep that one too myself