warneagle
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Severe Weather Threat - May 6, 2024
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Tanner
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Ugh part II
Jpgood97
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Not to come off any type of way, but I thought the vehicle damage might be more extensive after watching the velocity scans last night. Of course it’s early, and the first images are just coming out
TornadoFan17
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I'm not a storm surveyor by any means, but I noticed that too. High velocities on radar, houses completely gone but (relatively) tame vehicle damage. I wonder what the structural integrity of these houses were. I guess we'll find out soon.
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I am watching coverage this morning on Fox Weather and I have never seen two people talking over each other as much as the two meteorologists on the air this morning.
What's that mean?
Cheap, unsturdy foundations made of cinder blocks (aka concrete masonry units). "Slider" is a damage surveying term that refers to poorly-anchored or unanchored houses that simply slide off their foundations at relatively low wind speeds. Both CMU foundations and sliders go hand in hand.
JPWX
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If I had a dollar for every time someone yelled bust, I would be very rich
TheSuckZone
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Still a little upset about how late they were to issue the Tornado Emergency for Barnsdall last night
warneagle
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For those who were arguing about the TORE declaration last night
NorthGaWeather
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I agree with everything said in this tweet. Also, population shouldn't matter...but it does some times when that decision is made.
Here was RAC training guidance not too long ago (see thumbnail).
Also, since updates were made, here is a link that has some other handy info that others may like to have.
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Tanner
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I’m curious to hear from @Fred Gossage as to what possibly went wrong with yesterday’s performance.
jiharris0220
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Here’s one explanation.
Tanner
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Classic. Reminds me of May 20, 2019
Tempestas Tonitrua
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To me a “bust” is basically nothing tornadic going up at all. Like a blue sky bust due to a very stout capping inversion.
“Underperformed in relation to what was being forecasted” is usually the best term.
No, the high risk didn’t and won’t verify, but we had what was possibly a violent, long tracked tornado and there was severe weather all day yesterday. However, piling on the SPC is idiotic
Tanner
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Wouldn’t dry air prevent the storms from sustaining? They seemed to sustain just fine yesterday, and grew to upwards of 50kft.
Tempestas Tonitrua
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To me Kansas’ performance is the most anomalous. More than Ample forcing, no cap, very high VTPs, but storm coverage was lethargic until the line came through. My guess was shear related as the storms that did go still couldn’t produce tornados very well
Tempestas Tonitrua
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Someone more knowledgeable can chime in, but I think it was just wonky, unhealthy supercell dynamics.
Poor lapse rates can usually show up under a stout cap, but the dryline seemed to have decent enough LLLRs and was uncapped for storms to fire off and sustain themselves for a while. As the cap eroded in the OWS, storms were still able to take off (Barnsdall). That low level instability can be very important though as high 3CAPE values can aid greatly in stretching and tornado-genesis.
