Archive 2017-2019 Political Thread

Derek00 · Mar 23, 2018

Seeing people like Drudge and Anne Coulter turn on Trump over this bill would be a lot more satisfying if it wasn't a given that these idiots will fall back in line whenever he does his next really stupid thing.

The Wall Street Journal put up an article where an aide supposedly said that Trump was all for vetoing it until he was told it could hurt his weekend trip to Mar-A-Largo. God forbid that happens.

Evan · Mar 23, 2018

Trump is seriously by far the worst President of my lifetime. With the omnibus and illegal (and unconstitutional) bump stock ban he's proven that he doesn't care what his base thinks. Seems a lot of people are more open to impeachment today than just a few weeks ago. Remember, impeachment is ultimately a political solution If the GOP wasn't so spineless and cowardly they'd be helping Dems draft various articles of impeachment. It's pretty obvious Trump is corrupt and personally compromised. The sooner he's gone the better for our nation and our people. What a disaster.

maroonedinhsv · Mar 24, 2018

Evan said:
Trump is seriously by far the worst President of my lifetime. With the omnibus and illegal (and unconstitutional) bump stock ban he's proven that he doesn't care what his base thinks. Seems a lot of people are more open to impeachment today than just a few weeks ago. Remember, impeachment is ultimately a political solution If the GOP wasn't so spineless and cowardly they'd be helping Dems draft various articles of impeachment. It's pretty obvious Trump is corrupt and personally compromised. The sooner he's gone the better for our nation and our people. What a disaster.

Gee, who could've seen this coming?

Kory · Mar 24, 2018

maroonedinhsv said:
Gee, who could've seen this coming?

Like I said, I was open to giving him a chance. Had he surrounded himself with the right people, listened to them, upheld the constitution, and fought for a conservative agenda I'd support him. He has done none of that.

Kory · Mar 24, 2018

Evan said:
Trump is seriously by far the worst President of my lifetime. With the omnibus and illegal (and unconstitutional) bump stock ban he's proven that he doesn't care what his base thinks. Seems a lot of people are more open to impeachment today than just a few weeks ago. Remember, impeachment is ultimately a political solution If the GOP wasn't so spineless and cowardly they'd be helping Dems draft various articles of impeachment. It's pretty obvious Trump is corrupt and personally compromised. The sooner he's gone the better for our nation and our people. What a disaster.

100% true. He can get the frick out of the White House. And, hopefully, the door hits him where the good Lord split him.

Kory · Mar 24, 2018

Good stuff from the spineless Broward County superintendent. He wants to keep the focus on gun control and is blasting the attention paid to an Obama era discipline rule that allowed Nikolas Cruz to remain under the radar of law enforcement.

maroonedinhsv · Mar 24, 2018

Kory said:
Like I said, I was open to giving him a chance. Had he surrounded himself with the right people, listened to them, upheld the constitution, and fought for a conservative agenda I'd support him. He has done none of that.

There was exactly 0% chance of those things happening.

Kory · Mar 24, 2018

Feels a little Hitler-esque. They just need their black armbands.

ghost · Mar 24, 2018

Kory said:
Feels a little Hitler-esque. They just need their black armbands.

While I'm sympathetic to their cause, I have an uneasy feeling about this guy. He seems to love the spotlight and power rush a little too much

Derek00 · Mar 24, 2018

ghost said:
While I'm sympathetic to their cause, I have an uneasy feeling about this guy. He seems to love the spotlight and power rush a little too much

It seems like every group, no matter what they're protesting, has one of these people in it who want to gain fame and attention. They go to extremes and make the entire movement look bad.

Personally, I think it's awesome what these kids are doing/have done today. Whether you agree with what they're protesting or not, it's nice to see the younger generation actually take action and do something besides being glued to a phone or just pissing and moaning about it on social media.

Republicans have a bad habit of not shutting up about the constitution and then thinking it's a crime when someone protests something they support. We saw it with the NFL players kneeling and we're seeing it with this. They can continue to demonize these kids all they want. This is obviously a generation that is becoming more and more politically active and you'll only see that grow if things continue on the road they're on. That's not going to equal out to be a happy ending for the right-wing.

Kory · Mar 24, 2018

DB1313 said:
It seems like every group, no matter what they're protesting, has one of these people in it who want to gain fame and attention. They go to extremes and make the entire movement look bad.

Personally, I think it's awesome what these kids are doing/have done today. Whether you agree with what they're protesting or not, it's nice to see the younger generation actually take action and do something besides being glued to a phone or just pissing and moaning about it on social media.

Republicans have a bad habit of not shutting up about the constitution and then thinking it's a crime when someone protests something they support. We saw it with the NFL players kneeling and we're seeing it with this. They can continue to demonize these kids all they want. This is obviously a generation that is becoming more and more politically active and you'll only see that grow if things continue on the road they're on. That's not going to equal out to be a happy ending for the right-wing.

Well it is the law of the land, so...

When the kids can stop calling law abiding citizens murderers, that's when I will stop ragging on them. They have proposed NO meaningful solutions. And I don't expect that from teenagers...that's why most can't vote.

ARCC · Mar 24, 2018

DB1313 said:
Personally, I think it's awesome what these kids are doing/have done today. Whether you agree with what they're protesting or not, it's nice to see the younger generation actually take action and do something besides being glued to a phone or just pissing and moaning about it on social media.

Hear hear! And when they hook the force main sewer into the potable water supply we can praise them for trying to do good as well!

Arcadia · Mar 24, 2018

DB1313 said:
It seems like every group, no matter what they're protesting, has one of these people in it who want to gain fame and attention. They go to extremes and make the entire movement look bad.

Personally, I think it's awesome what these kids are doing/have done today. Whether you agree with what they're protesting or not, it's nice to see the younger generation actually take action and do something besides being glued to a phone or just pissing and moaning about it on social media.

Republicans have a bad habit of not shutting up about the constitution and then thinking it's a crime when someone protests something they support. We saw it with the NFL players kneeling and we're seeing it with this. They can continue to demonize these kids all they want. This is obviously a generation that is becoming more and more politically active and you'll only see that grow if things continue on the road they're on. That's not going to equal out to be a happy ending for the right-wing.

Kids have been getting involved about real issues for quite some time, actually. It's called the March for Life. Thousands of teenage kids participate in that every year, but since that is about abortion, the media doesn't like to cover that so much because, agenda. Those kids will never be made into media stars for having an opinion. No, this isn't about youth getting involved. This is strictly about gun control. And these Parkland kids serve the liberal media's purpose.

Kory · Mar 25, 2018

Leftists sure love to attack people's faith when they have no logical stance on anything else. Nothing Rubio has done is Anti-Catholic.

Kory · Mar 25, 2018

Funny how the media won't cover the thousands of anti-gun-control counter-protests that occurred today. But, keep telling yourself there is no agenda trying to be pushed...

Bama Ravens · Mar 25, 2018

The left doesn't realize the monster they are unleashing with their gun control ideas and anti-gun rhetoric. If you give them a little gun control, they will only want more. As they go for more and more, they will meet more resistance. Eventually that will come to a violent head.

Gun ownership rights is a line that many conservative thinking people have, and when it is crossed, they will be done with the government.

KoD · Mar 25, 2018

Wish I could watch the Stormy story tonight on 60 Minutes. I'll have to stream it later tonight.

Derek00 · Mar 25, 2018

Just gonna throw it out there that support for stricter gun control is at the highest point it has been in the last five years.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...vor-gun-measures-doubt-congress-will-act.html

Kory · Mar 25, 2018

Bama Ravens said:
The left doesn't realize the monster they are unleashing with their gun control ideas and anti-gun rhetoric. If you give them a little gun control, they will only want more. As they go for more and more, they will meet more resistance. Eventually that will come to a violent head.

Gun ownership rights is a line that many conservative thinking people have, and when it is crossed, they will be done with the government.

I know some of them like to think of the Constitution as a 200+ year old piece of toilet paper, but this is pretty easy to understand.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Antonin Scalia had a great explanation for what the "well-regulated" part meant (from Heller vs. District of Columbia). Congress has NO power to "create" the militia (it already exists). They're only given the power to call forth the militia.

Unlike armies and navies, which Congress is given the power to create (“to raise . . . Armies”; “to provide . . . a Navy,” Art. I, §8, cls. 12–13), the militia is assumed by Article I already to be in existence. Congress is given the power to “provide for calling forth the militia,” §8, cl. 15; and the power not to create, but to “organiz[e]” it—and not to organize “a” militia, which is what one would expect if the militia were to be a federal creation, but to organize “the” militia, connoting a body already in existence, ibid., cl. 16. This is fully consistent with the ordinary definition of the militia as all able-bodied men. From that pool, Congress has plenary power to organize the units that will make up an effective fighting force.

Per the Federalist Papers (No. 46), Founding Father James Madison, “ultimate authority…resides in the people alone.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/pdf/07-290P.ZO
https://www.congress.gov/resources/display/content/The+Federalist+Papers#TheFederalistPapers-46

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