gangstonc
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And trump has been using his personal android phone against the advice of security hawks. Maybe they can be cell mates!
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Evan
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Do you believe Trump is a habitual liar with a history of inventing outlandish falsehoods?
Evan
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I don't think Trump has the cojones to fire Mueller, but he should totally do it and prove me wrong. 
I don't think Trump has the cojones to fire Mueller, but he should totally do it and prove me wrong.
Mueller is friends with Comey. Conflict of interest and he should be fired. But most likely will not be.
gangstonc
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"I don't recall".
I expect my employees to remember what they have done. If they can't remember, they need to take notes and be able to accurately describe their work to me as well as their reasoning behind decision and their view of the results of those decisions. Sessions is a joke.
Very interesting that he couldn't remember one meeting that we know happened, but remembered another that McCain asked him about on the same day and told him all about it.
FoxNews isnte even discussing the testimony 10 minutes after it ends. Hilarious.
I expect my employees to remember what they have done. If they can't remember, they need to take notes and be able to accurately describe their work to me as well as their reasoning behind decision and their view of the results of those decisions. Sessions is a joke.
Very interesting that he couldn't remember one meeting that we know happened, but remembered another that McCain asked him about on the same day and told him all about it.
FoxNews isnte even discussing the testimony 10 minutes after it ends. Hilarious.
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And McCain basically implied he was lying by saying it wasn't something he'd ever shown much interest in and then went on to list 4-5 other Russia FP issues and Sessions said he didn't cover that. Odd meeting to cover just one subject.
I don't think Sessions and Trump personally colluded with Russia. I'm not ruling it out, but I think it is pretty unlikely. I believe, however, that they knew surrogates were back-channeling Russia, and they might not even know what all they desperately tried to ignore.
Trump and Sessions don't want those from the campaign that did talk explicitly with the Russians to end up flipping. If there are intercepted communications of Page/Manafort/Stone they don't want to be looked at as having responsibility for those people's actions. Notice how Sessions claimed he didn't know all the members of his own team and said they weren't very organized, not a cohesive group, and didn't really have meetings other than a few people here and there. That's to distance himself, The President, and the campaign from potential actions of other surrogates.
For all the times the GOP has gone nuts when a Clinton said I do not recall, I don't remember, etc -- it was interesting to see Sessions use that on pretty much every question he didn't want to answer. Unless it happened to involve the WH, and then invented an imaginary form of EP that you, can invoke by referring to a DOJ "policy" that he claims is long standing but can neither quote, explain, list a citation for or any other form of proving that it is policy.
Sessions probably said some variation of "I don't recall/remember" in excess of 50 times, and honestly it was probably close to 100+ times. There is a reason for this legal trick -- he doesn't want to answer with a denial in case there is an intelligence intercept, witness, or evidence that contradicts his testimony. If you just act like you don't remember it isn't technically perjury is the idea behind that. Later when confronted with evidence you can then claim to have your memory "refreshed" and then spin it in a new direction. Habitual liars do this under oath. Trump is notorious for responding this way under oath in depositions, and obviously Bill Clinton did it all the time.
It goes without saying that those standing up for this destruction of norms and condoning the lying, corruption, obstruction, and compromise of justice and our nation's security are never allowed to complain about a Clinton or a Democrat again. You can't ignore something worse in your own party and then claim to have any right to be critical of the behavior of others or those in another party.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448674/trump-wanted-comey-refute-false-notion-he-was-suspect
From McCarthy's article:
On March 30, 2017, by his own account, then-FBI director James Comey told President Donald Trump that Trump himself was not under investigation — the third time he had given him that assurance. In fact, Comey told Trump that he had just assured members of Congress that Trump was not a suspect under investigation. Think about that. This was fully six weeks after the then-director’s Oval Office meeting with the president, during which Comey alleges that Trump told him, “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448674/trump-wanted-comey-refute-false-notion-he-was-suspect
From McCarthy's article:
On March 30, 2017, by his own account, then-FBI director James Comey told President Donald Trump that Trump himself was not under investigation — the third time he had given him that assurance. In fact, Comey told Trump that he had just assured members of Congress that Trump was not a suspect under investigation. Think about that. This was fully six weeks after the then-director’s Oval Office meeting with the president, during which Comey alleges that Trump told him, “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448674/trump-wanted-comey-refute-false-notion-he-was-suspect
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There has been zero mention (or condemnation) of the most recent terrorist attack in London. Normally this thread catches fire whenever something like this happens. What's different this time?
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There has also been zero condemnation of the lack of transparency of this administration. Republicans tried to push through a health care bills that nobody has read. Now the WH isn't not allowing recording during press briefings and passing over US press for questions to allow Pravda to ask a question. This is a travesty. How can you defend this?!
The U.S. media are a bunch of biased jerks that report fake news on a daily basis. The have repeatedly reported news they know is not true in order to damage Trump. Why on earth should the president help them achieve their goal of taking him down ?
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What a bunch of bogus bologna. The media isn't perpetuating any untrue narrative in a more biased way than they did with Obama or Bush.
Trump happens to be a train wreck that you support and you'll bend the truth to reject that notion. Media bias give me a break... It isn't any different than what it has always been.
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Evan
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Bernie supporters and "progressive" left-wingers going nuts saying a left-wing candidate that supports single payer and 15 an hour minimum wage would have won GA-06. As a former resident of GA-06, I say: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
If Dems continue to believe their solution is to move left they will continue to lose seats. Doesn't matter that they weren't expected to win GA-06. You don't spend that kind of cash (over $30 million) unless you were trying to win. There's no moral victory when you lose a winnable race against a weak candidate (Handel).
The Bernie wing of the Democratic Party wants the Dems to go left. The Trump wing of the GOP is absolutely disgraceful and has zero credibility. Why isn't there a Party to represent the other 60-70 percent of us that absolutely loathe the Trump nuttery and incompetence, but also have no desire to embrace Socialism, pay 90% income tax, and don't want our children to be indoctrinated that they should be "gender fluid?"
The extremes of both parties have WAY too much influence and control. The 60-70% of us that want to have a stable, peaceful, and prosperous country had better start speaking up and actually getting out and voting instead of saying it is hopeless and sitting on our butts.
People who don't vote are just as responsible for the extreme divisiveness and partisanship in today's politics as the zealots are.
If Dems continue to believe their solution is to move left they will continue to lose seats. Doesn't matter that they weren't expected to win GA-06. You don't spend that kind of cash (over $30 million) unless you were trying to win. There's no moral victory when you lose a winnable race against a weak candidate (Handel).
The Bernie wing of the Democratic Party wants the Dems to go left. The Trump wing of the GOP is absolutely disgraceful and has zero credibility. Why isn't there a Party to represent the other 60-70 percent of us that absolutely loathe the Trump nuttery and incompetence, but also have no desire to embrace Socialism, pay 90% income tax, and don't want our children to be indoctrinated that they should be "gender fluid?"
The extremes of both parties have WAY too much influence and control. The 60-70% of us that want to have a stable, peaceful, and prosperous country had better start speaking up and actually getting out and voting instead of saying it is hopeless and sitting on our butts.
People who don't vote are just as responsible for the extreme divisiveness and partisanship in today's politics as the zealots are.
I agree with a good portion of this. However, your hatred of Trump leads you astray at times. You need to look at what he has actually accomplished in a very short period of time. The 60-70 % you speak of have lead us to where we are today. 20 Trillion dollar debt, many more trillions in unfunded mandates, a collapsing infrastructure, a deteriorating social climate, a ruination of the finest health care system in the world, the creation of a permanent and elitist ruling class, the complete degradation of our education system and the total dependence on government by millions of Americans. I think you would agree this is unacceptable and drastic changes must be made if we are to salvage this country.
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