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I made fun of his remarks at times. Don't believe I demanded he be run out of office for making odd comments. There were plenty of other reasons for that.
You didn't make fun of his remarks at times, you criticized his remarks (and those of his wife and his administration) at every opportunity (many of which I agreed with). As far as Spicer goes, I do believe he should be held to a very high standard when it comes to "misstatements". His job is to be the spokesperson of the executive branch - speaking incorrectly is poor job performance by definition.
 

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You didn't make fun of his remarks at times, you criticized his remarks (and those of his wife and his administration) at every opportunity (many of which I agreed with). As far as Spicer goes, I do believe he should be held to a very high standard when it comes to "misstatements". His job is to be the spokesperson of the executive branch - speaking incorrectly is poor job performance by definition.

I did make fun of him and his God awful wife. I also criticized them, lampooned them, loathed them and most of his policies.
 

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I kinda feel bad for Spicer. What a awful position to be in. He finally has worked his way up in his career to the ultimate PR position and now he's stuck. If he resigns.. it's failure. If he gets fired.. it's failure. If he moves forward, he sinks deeper into the abyss of the PR nightmare that's perpetuated by Team Trump. Unless he can risk his life to save a puppy and someone capture it on video, I see no good way out for him.
 

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I kinda feel bad for Spicer. What a awful position to be in. He finally has worked his way up in his career to the ultimate PR position and now he's stuck. If he resigns.. it's failure. If he gets fired.. it's failure. If he moves forward, he sinks deeper into the abyss of the PR nightmare that's perpetuated by Team Trump. Unless he can risk his life to save a puppy and someone capture it on video, I see no good way out for him.

I disagree with with your premise that Team Trump is in disarray. While it may not be the most polished they are achieving results. Look at what China had to say about the Norks. Think Barry could have gotten them to make a similar statement ? No way.



http://nypost.com/2017/04/12/china-willing-to-work-with-us-against-north-korea/
 

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U.S. just dropped the largest non-nuclear bomb in our arsenal on an ISIS strong hold.

Can't say Trump didn't keep his promise to "bomb the s**t out of them."
 

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I disagree with with your premise that Team Trump is in disarray. While it may not be the most polished they are achieving results. Look at what China had to say about the Norks. Think Barry could have gotten them to make a similar statement ? No way.



http://nypost.com/2017/04/12/china-willing-to-work-with-us-against-north-korea/
"When the president of the United States makes several major shifts on policy in the course of the week, it’s bound to raise a series of questions. Luckily, there’s someone whose job is to answer those questions, giving the press information about the president’s thinking and direction: the White House press secretary.

At least in theory. Sean Spicer seemed less than enthused on Thursday about trying to explain why Donald Trump shifted his view on issues ranging from the Export-Import Bank to interest rates to Chinese currency manipulation in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. Trump also announced that NATO, which he had said was obsolete, is no longer obsolete. During Thursday’s White House briefing, reporters wanted to know what had happened, and what this meant for other Trump positions—were they equally malleable?" from The Atlantic

Looks like Trump is having a hard time figuring out exactly what he is for and what he is against... Spicer is pulling his hair out trying to cover for him
 

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Never Trumpers such as yourself and the main street media get bogged down in the process. I am focused on results and so far the results have been positive. Is there a method to his madness ? We shall see.
 
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I have to wonder... is the president even any more than a puppet for the US Establishments agenda. I mean the agenda of the people who were in charge when Trump was Inaugurated and will be in charge still when the next President is inaugurated. A lot of the things that are happening were NOT in Trumps plan which WE voted for!!! Look at how he has done a complete turnaround on so many things. Was it his choice?? I think the President is being commanded instead of being commander and hes not in control! China & Russia are 2 very respected countries by the world and UN recognized and they are both warning us of our ways. Not looking like this is going to turn out in a good way with N Korea if conflict happens!!
 
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I think the President is being commanded instead of being commander and hes not in control!

This isn't surprising. He was a puppet of the Alt-Right during his campaign, so it's not exactly shocking that the Trump puppet is moving over to a different hand. This is what happens when a Reality TV buffoon is elected President.
 

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I try to tell people all the time that the president isn't the leader of the country in a sense that many people l think. He is a military leader and a legislative gate keeper. He can't will through his own policy unless the real legislative leaders agree to do it. He can sway public opinion and be the voice of government, but the House and the Senate truly hold the most substantial power when it comes to national laws. Forgo the checks and balances point, president is necessary for passing laws but he can only pass or reject what he gets passed to him. I always try to convince people that the Congressional elections are just as, and in my opinion, more important than the presidential election.
 

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Never Trumpers such as yourself and the main street media get bogged down in the process. I am focused on results and so far the results have been positive. Is there a method to his madness ? We shall see.
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Although he may be making progress on the coal front, idk.
 

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Donald Trump is a man without a moral compass. He's been on every side of every issue for - forever. He doesn't 'know' what he thinks about any one thing with certainty. And anyone who thinks he does is being misled. The 'never Trump' crowd gets ridiculed by the Trump crowd but I was not wrong about him. He's like one of those plastic windmills, blowing around and spinning in circles. The only thing he emphatically likes is deals. Making deals. Really, really good deals. Great deals. And he doesn't need a moral compass to do that. And he'll get to decide what makes for a great deal. Not the people who he played...I mean, elected him. Having said that, he's done some things that I've liked and approved of. But you can't hang your hat on his words because they change from one minute to the next. But this isn't news. The only thing that surprises me are those who are genuinely surprised. I mean, you didn't see it coming? Really? Has he really done a complete turnaround though? I never saw him as being emphatic about anything. I saw him as saying what people wanted to hear. Nothing more. So, I guess Donald Trump is being exactly who I thought he was.
 

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Here is what Trump has gotten from China so far:

China did not support Russia in a U.N. security council vote regarding Syria. The abstained. First time ever.

China sent back 12 fully loaded ships with North Korean coal. China begins importing coal from U.S. coal companies.

China has stopped sending oil to North Korea.

China has halted direct flights between Beijing and Pyongyang.

China has stated it is open to discussions of a denuclearized Korean peninsula without having North Korea involved. China, Japan, South Korea and the U.S. talking about how to get rid of Nork nukes.

If he withdrew his plans about China and its manipulation of currency I can understand why.
 

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The Alabama Senate votes on going constitutional carry. Given trends in other states, I believe it passes. But not after some hard lobbying by money hungry sheriffs from around the state who will lose out on CCP funds.
 

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Donald Trump is a man without a moral compass. He's been on every side of every issue for - forever. He doesn't 'know' what he thinks about any one thing with certainty. And anyone who thinks he does is being misled. The 'never Trump' crowd gets ridiculed by the Trump crowd but I was not wrong about him. He's like one of those plastic windmills, blowing around and spinning in circles. The only thing he emphatically likes is deals. Making deals. Really, really good deals. Great deals. And he doesn't need a moral compass to do that. And he'll get to decide what makes for a great deal. Not the people who he played...I mean, elected him. Having said that, he's done some things that I've liked and approved of. But you can't hang your hat on his words because they change from one minute to the next. But this isn't news. The only thing that surprises me are those who are genuinely surprised. I mean, you didn't see it coming? Really? Has he really done a complete turnaround though? I never saw him as being emphatic about anything. I saw him as saying what people wanted to hear. Nothing more. So, I guess Donald Trump is being exactly who I thought he was.

While I do not argue that Trump has held many sides of many issues I am not certain that makes him void of a moral compass. Does a president without a moral compass respond to the Syrian president gassing men women and children the way he did. And give the reasons he gave as to why he did it ? And does such a man deliver the Easter message I heard the other day ? Perhaps, but I think becoming president humbles a person, even Donald Trump. I think trump has done a very good job so far. He has been and will continue to be betrayed by Republican establishment types. And the dems with very few exceptions will never cooperate. And let's not forget the fake news! Not trying to be argumentative, just pointing out there is a little more there, there than you think.
 

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While I do not argue that Trump has held many sides of many issues I am not certain that makes him void of a moral compass. Does a president without a moral compass respond to the Syrian president gassing men women and children the way he did. And give the reasons he gave as to why he did it ? And does such a man deliver the Easter message I heard the other day ? Perhaps, but I think becoming president humbles a person, even Donald Trump. I think trump has done a very good job so far. He has been and will continue to be betrayed by Republican establishment types. And the dems with very few exceptions will never cooperate. And let's not forget the fake news! Not trying to be argumentative, just pointing out there is a little more there, there than you think.

You mean like Alex Jones, performance artist? :cool:
 
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