Evan
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Absolutely heartbreaking. A patient, a hero, and a great man. Really hoping he can pull out a miracle.
I best not comment about what I think about how POTUS and his supporters have treated this fine man.
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Absolutely heartbreaking. A patient, a hero, and a great man. Really hoping he can pull out a miracle.
I best not comment about what I think about how POTUS and his supporters have treated this fine man.
I agree with you that this is a bad policy and I don't like it. I'm not sure what is different about Session's changes from what Lynch authorized previously, but it was something I'd hope would be rolled back, not taken a step further.
I think he will have to. I may be wrong but I don't see how he could perform his duties with this terrible illness. I would think he would want to live his final days with his family doing the things he loves the most while he is able to do them. Of course working in DC may be what he loves the most so who knows
gangstonc
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Trump has re-signed the Iran nuclear deal that he formerly called the "worst deal ever".
Evan
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Yes, the policy previously existed to some extent. It was rolled back to a degree by Holder or Lynch...I don't remember the details exactly and don't have time to research it in depth to be able to say with confidence what the full history is.
What I do know, however, is that we lost the war on drugs a long time ago, and it is CLEAR that current policies aren't working. Whether it was cocaine and crack in the 80s/early 90s, meth and party drugs in the 90s/mid-2000s, or the opioid epidemic in current day, the drug epidemic has morphed, gotten stronger, and has continued to take lives and ruin lives no matter how strict we've gotten with our laws.
Nonetheless, this particular issue isn't even really truly related to the drug war. I don't think anyone has a problem with seizing and forfeiture of assets of CONVICTED drug traffickers. But, the current policy has been heavily abused, and there are hundreds if not thousands of examples of innocent people losing property while having zero link to drug trafficking or anything illegal. One recent case was a Christian band that had their offering and donations seized and forfeited.
It absolutely is in violation of the 4th amendment, and it should be something that unites both groups like the ACLU, Libertarians, and small Government Conservatives.
I referenced the drug war because Sessions has made it clear he's against Criminal Justice reform and wants to increase the use of the same failed war-on-drugs tactics that have neither reduced drug consumption or drug related crime, and has led to surges of violence and prison over-crowding.
I've never believed we should legalize all drugs, but there is clearly a tension between states legalizing marijuana and the Federal Government continuing to list it as a Schedule I controlled substance like Methamphetamine, Heroin, and Cocaine while many opiates are Schedule II, and until recently even Schedule III.
If we don't get serious about treatment and education, and prioritize the deadly drugs out there while working on a plan to decriminalize or legalize certain drugs we will never get out of this mess. You can throw all the money in the world at it, but there's a reason the USA is the world's largest consumer of drugs. By far.
It would he so much cheaper to treat and educate people than the militarization of our police, the extreme medical cost of overdoses and acute medical treatment, and the societal costs and crime that come along with a heavy war on drugs.
Drugs addicts need to be treated as medical issues and properly handled so that we can focus on the cartels, gangs, and traffickers while developing a more sensible drug policy. Why have so many other countries been able to change their policy with positive results and we don't have the will to do it?
Evan
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Is it still made in America week?
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Sessions first says there was no meeting with the Russians; media reports he did. Sessions says he did meet the ambassador but they didn't talk about the election. Media reports he did talk about the election.
Without the media doggedness we wouldn't know these things. We can hate the biased medias every day and rightfully so, but they've done a lot to protect our democracy at the same time. I don't think a man caught in these lies (and what appears to be a cover-up of something) should serve as the nations top law official.
Without the media doggedness we wouldn't know these things. We can hate the biased medias every day and rightfully so, but they've done a lot to protect our democracy at the same time. I don't think a man caught in these lies (and what appears to be a cover-up of something) should serve as the nations top law official.
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I think its cute that so many Democrats are suddenly concerned with the Russians. Had they been as concerned in 2012 and not laughed it off we wouldn't be in this mess right now.
gangstonc
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The dems definitely made mistakes, but these acts perpetrated by a few, are downright malicious.
Working with them is in a different category IMo
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Evan
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No, I think we'd still be in the mess. Democrats grew a spine on Russia for largely political reasons (but not all), and many Republicans have become spineless on Russia (but not all).
At the end of the day it is like a plane crash. There's not just one thing that had to happen for all of this to occur. Trump had to be a dirt bag, GOP had to be spineless, Obama and Dems had to act like Russia was a threat and mishandle it until too late, etc.
Just my perspective. Whole lot of leadership failures.
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“From the moment the insurance, you’re 21 years old, you start working and you’re paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you’re 70, you get a nice plan,”
Where is this $12 a year insurance that trump seems to think exists?
Where is this $12 a year insurance that trump seems to think exists?
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The Dems laughed at Romney when he said Russia presented our largest global threat. They didn't act like Russia was a threat until December.
Trump has come out and declared he has the power to pardon himself and anyone in his family if investigations reveal any crimes that may have been committed. Would he even say something like this if there was nothing to hide?
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And if there was nothing to hide why not order everyone involved in the campaign and his white house to divulge all information they have regarding Russian communications and meetings, with the exception of classified national security matters, to the public or to Congress or the special counsel? Seems like the most trustworthy and professional thing to do. It would show some integrity and assurance that nothing illegal happened
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No, it's ridiculous is what it is. If you're not a contortionist is has to hurt to constantly be twisting yourself into a pretzel on a regular basis. But this is what I think every time a Trump supporter tries to defend the man. It's madness at this point. The ends do not justify the means. Saying he's 'unconventional' is not a defense of his actions. It's actually a non-defense if anyone is actually paying attention. This article is not groundbreaking. Trump supporters and talk radio have been saying this crap for months now. Aaaaand I'm still over hear rolling my eyes so hard I almost seize. This 'he's playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers' may work for his base but the rest of us who believe that you don't sell your soul to the devil for any outcome ain't buying it. Trump ain't that clever. He just isn't. His base obviously puts their faith into the man, but he's given them no reason to. I don't know if it's because they just can't bear being this wrong or if they truly drank the cool-aid. I'm sorry if that sounds offensive. Actually, no, I'm not. Donald Trump is offensive every time he opens his mouth so deal with it. It was creepy when so many people fainted in Obama's presence like he was the Second Coming or had children sing his praises in classrooms - literally. I've seen the videos. And it's creepy watching so many Trump supporters twist themselves in abnormal positions to what - save face? If so, it's not working. Only Trump's base is buying these excuses and well written responses. It makes them feel better about Trump. But if you have to constantly contort into these positions all the live long day - you may should ask yourself how this is hurting you in the end. It can't be healthy. James Madison said, "The truth is that all men in power ought to be mistrusted." I don't see any Trump supporters showing signs of mistrust. And it's disturbing. Truly.
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