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[Stormlover]

Goldberg is right on. If Trayvon had been killed by another black man, neither Obama, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or the others would have spoken a word about it.
http://video.foxnews...aylist_id=86856

[ams30721us]

Stormlover, on 26 March 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

Now I see the Panthers on TV in their "military" black uniforms saying they will get $1 million for the capture of Zimmerman(and they have already said dead or alive) and said if the law didn't do it in a week, they would. These thugs should be thrown in jail and charged now.

More info that is now coming out:
http://articles.orla...-black-teenager

Also, as a side note, we've heard over and over on here that Al Sharpton got 30,000 people to a rally the other day. As usual, those numbers were nothing close to the truth

More:

Make sure you do the responsible deal and separate this group from everyone else because they are a radical group on their own agenda as I said earlier. Also you need to make clear the family, the attorneys, People like Al Sharpton or Jackson don't want anything to do with them or their new group. You should also add the group is going against the family wishes. Might want to throw in the fact that they threaten the President and AG Eric Holder. etc. etc. Lets not  be selective in how  we connect them to this.

With regards to the new information lets be clear that is nothing but Zimmermans account that was "Leaked" to the public by the police. We already had plenty of knowledge of a scuffle happening.

[ams30721us]

Stormlover, on 26 March 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Goldberg is right on. If Trayvon had been killed by another black man, neither Obama, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or the others would have spoken a word about it.
http://video.foxnews...aylist_id=86856

Goldberg is wrong on this like everything else. They would not be on this because the black man would be in jail no questions asked.

[Stormlover]

Funny how quiet the media has been about a white Miss. State student being murdered in cold blood by a black man the other day. Think Obama or Jesse or Al will speak up about it? Of course not.
http://blog.gulflive...in_mississ.html

Edited by Stormlover, 26 March 2012 - 10:43 PM.

[ams30721us]

Stormlover, on 26 March 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Funny how quiet the media has been about a white Miss. State student being murdered in cold blood by a black man the other day. Think Obama or Jesse or Al will speak up about it? Of course not.
http://blog.gulflive...in_mississ.html

Question where is the black man who did it??? Are the Mississppi police trying to cover up this cold blood murder? Another question, did the police wait days without alerting the family of the death of this student? No comparison. I do find it funny you comment on this but not on the incident where the white teens drove to the black part of town to pick out a black person and run them down on camera with the pickup truck in cold blood. Amazing how Al and Obama have not spoke out on it either. Oh wait that is because justice was served.

Nice try. You really do try hard.

[Titan]

Stormlover, on 26 March 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Goldberg is right on. If Trayvon had been killed by another black man, neither Obama, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or the others would have spoken a word about it.

ams30721us, on 26 March 2012 - 10:30 PM, said:

Goldberg is wrong on this like everything else. They would not be on this because the black man would be in jail no questions asked.

THIS tells me all I need to know.

[Titan]

There are a few people here who could stand to watch this.

[ams30721us]

Titan, on 26 March 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

THIS tells me all I need to know.

Sorry that is simply a fact. Justice system numbers back that up and if you want someone else other than a black man to say it, talk to Ron Paul he will break it down for you.

[ams30721us]

Titan, on 26 March 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

There are a few people here who could stand to watch this.

I agree with this. It makes no sense at all.

[Blizzard1]

ams30721us, on 26 March 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

Sorry that is simply a fact. Justice system numbers back that up and if you want someone else other than a black man to say it, talk to Ron Paul he will break it down for you.

ams, your obvious emotional bias in this case renders any so called "facts" you try to bring up as suspect at best...I asked you earlier what shred of evidence you have in the absolutely baseless charges you made against the Sanford PD desiring Zimmerman to walk the street freely to let tensions rise. I am still waiting of were your "facts" off a bit there too? I'd like to see a reasoned reply, not just some blurted out emotional non-sense that simply makes you feel better.

I'd also like to add, since you apparently have all the answers in this case to go along with your insider knowledge of the conspiracy within the Sanford PD to let Zimmerman free so tensions can rise, when are you going to contact the justice department and the FBI to share these nuggets of information with them as I am sure they'd be quite interested to hear them out?

Edited by Blizzard1, 27 March 2012 - 12:03 AM.

[ES5NHC]

My 0,02€

- Partisan hatred has got to stop. This should not be left vs right issue.
- It does appear that things are starting to go down towards just another trial by media.
- Not taking a stand yet.
- Accusations that started this thread are not valid. If someone is not blindly cheerleading a certain side, it doesn't make them side with the other.

That is all.
*crawls back into the den*

Edited by ES5NHC, 27 March 2012 - 12:46 AM.

[WBB]

This is just not going to end well.

[Cyclogent]

ams30721us, on 26 March 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:

While I have decided to refrain from posting anymore commentary on this I just had to say I just saw the Anderson 360 interview with the New Black Panther group and WOWZERS! This group is CRAZY! I mean flat out scary crazy! The stuff they were saying was WOW, reminds me of old Malcolm X films. I think this is the first time and real evidence I have seen of anyone trying to abuse the situation. These people go wayyyy overboard I mean they even call President Obama an "Uncle Tom *****" I mean I was even labeled from the interview.  They also flat out ignored the fact the family keeps saying they don't want them involved with this or wants to talk with them or anything. The group says they are the Military or some crazy stuff for the family. I mean wow I was not around obviously in the 60s or whatever but I can really see what Dr. Martin Luther King J.R. was up against back then. Geez This group is no doubt the black kkk but heck they attacked most blacks tonight who think they should leave the family alone. I could not believe that interview but I give credit to Anderson for somehow making it through with all the attacks.

Yeah AMS you hit the nail on the head...the NBPP has it's agenda and the Martin case is being used as justification for their actions.  The first step in conquering the people is dividing the people...and it isn't any secret the NBPP would love to do just that - divide and conquer America. In fact, it is one of their primary goals and purpose of the organization.  Crazy and scary indeed.

from wikipedia:  Despite its name, NBPP is not an official successor to the Black Panther Party. Members of the original Black Panther Party have insisted that the newer party is illegitimate and have firmly declared that "there is no new Black Panther Party". The Anti-Defamation League, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights consider the New Black Panthers to be a hate group.


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[Stormlover]

ES5NHC, on 27 March 2012 - 12:42 AM, said:

My 0,02€

- Partisan hatred has got to stop. This should not be left vs right issue.
- It does appear that things are starting to go down towards just another trial by media.
- Not taking a stand yet.
- Accusations that started this thread are not valid. If someone is not blindly cheerleading a certain side, it doesn't make them side with the other.

That is all.
*crawls back into the den*

With all due respect, the accusations that someone started this thread with are valid. We live with the media the way it is over here every day, and know a little more about how it treats these issues.

Shameless. Obama campaign trying to use situation by hawking their hoodies. Cooincidence?
http://www.wtam.com/...Fv7gOZ_817Dw1AA

Nice little name he had for himself on Twitter. And as you can tell, the much baby faced picture of him publicized in a Hollister shirt was clearly a long time ago.
http://dailycaller.c.../#ixzz1qGztV3LT

Edited by Stormlover, 27 March 2012 - 11:19 AM.

[ams30721us]

Hmmm another Stormlover smear campaign tactic blows up in his face. I am pretty sure it was you posting this picture yesterday trying to make a point? What point I am  not sure because even if that original pic was Trayvon it would still not justify him being shot for no reason but WOW posting images from a White Supremacy group to make a point....Storm you have def. answered my questions about you...WOW!

http://www.11alive.c...ates-on-the-web

TAMPA (WTSP) -- As public outrage over the shooting of a Florida teen by a neighborhood watchman grows, so too has a backlash against 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

RELATED | Photos of 'I am Trayvon' rally at State Capitol

An unarmed Martin was shot and killed in February as he was returning to a home from a 7-Eleven by 28-year-old George Zimmerman. Claiming self defense, Zimmerman has not been arrested.

Rallies and protests have since erupted, demanding Zimmerman's arrest. Meanwhile, others have come to Zimmerman's defense and some have questioned the media's bias and narrative surrounding the shooting.

Over the weekend, a picture began circulating that claimed to show Martin in a less-than-flattering light: shirtless, sagging pants, and giving the finger to the camera.

The image quickly circulated across blogs and websites, with many claiming it as evidence that Martin was not as innocent as family and supporters claimed, as well as alleging media bias.

There is one problem to that claim: the picture is not Trayvon Martin.

Or at the very least, he's not the one who made worldwide headlines after his death. The Facebook page the picture came from appears to belong to a different Trayvon Martin, whereas the image is nowhere to be found on the slain teen's profile.

Street Wise Pundit, a liberal blog, claims the widely circulated "fake" Trayvon Martin picture originated on a white supremacist website.

[ams30721us]

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I still don't understand what is the point people like Stormlover are trying to make even IF this had been a real picture? What would that have to do with the case to justify it??

I just can't understand how some people like this can be so SICK to try to smear this poor kid when at worst if you think Zimmerman is not guilty it would be because of a technical self defense off of awful judgement. I mean how can you be the one arguing that the President, people like Al Sharpton and so on be trying to spur things up when you are guilty of passing around hateful smear tactics on this dead kid who can't defend himself anymore with fake descriptions to try and paint him as this awful thug?

[Matt]

WBB, on 27 March 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

This is just not going to end well.

Can't, can't we just all get along !

[Stormlover]

So the picture they keep showing is 4 or 5 years old. Why aren't they showing newer ones? You either want to know all the facts, or you made your mind up right away. I'm not saying the killing was justified, but there continues to be more and more information coming out, and a large number don't want to hear anything else. They made their mind up right away. Seems like I remember a lot doing that with Brawley, and with the Duke Lacrosse Team, etc.
http://www.liberalsa...g/?blogid=12874

Edited by Stormlover, 27 March 2012 - 07:05 PM.

[Matt]

Stormlover, on 27 March 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

So the picture they keep showing is 4 or 5 years old. Why aren't they showing newer ones? You either want to know all the facts, or you made your mind up right away. I'm not saying the killing was justified, but there continues to be more and more information coming out, and a large number don't want to hear anything else. They made their mind up right away. Seems like I remember a lot doing that with Brawley, and with the Duke Lacrosse Team, etc.
http://www.liberalsa...g/?blogid=12874

Of course he's made up his mind. Whitey bad!

[Stormlover]

Media Matter exec apologizes for blasting Drudge for posting picture. Seems like that side is all about emotion and anger.
http://www.foxnews.c...-trayvon-photo/

A family attorney on TV says they are not ashamed of his past and not trying to get any sort of gag order, so that should be good enough for any on here that don't like more current pictures, or his tweets, or information about his three school suspensions, etc. coming out. This is no reason for him to be shot, but goes to the point that he may not have been all innocent in this case as they want you to believe.

Spike Lee is a sorry P.O.S.
http://dailycaller.c.../#ixzz1qL0ZcWZH

Edited by Stormlover, 27 March 2012 - 08:02 PM.

[NathansGal]

Praying for everyone involved.....this is sad!!

[sutton82]

NathansGal, on 27 March 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

Praying for everyone involved.....this is sad!!

Yup.  There is no way for us to know the whole story.  The only thing we can do is pray for everybody.

Edited by sutton82, 27 March 2012 - 10:01 PM.

[silver_lining]

I am curious (and I really do not know), how many "hate crimes" have been blacks against whites. Also, how many of the before-mentioned been this big of news in the past 30 or so years. I am not trying to bait, I really do not know, and at this time, I don't have time to research it to the extent that it needs researching.

[ARCC]

ams30721us, on 26 March 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

Sad but so true...



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Fake

http://todayentertai...ocid=ansmsnbc11

[Stormlover]

We've been told how much bigger Zimmerman was, but now we find out he is only 5' 8'' and Trayvon was 6'2''. So for those that don't see how he could have hit him, knocked him down, and had him down hitting him...

Now we have an elderly couple with nothing to do with it, having to leave their home in fear because that racist P.O.S. Spike Lee tweeted their address wrongly as Zimmerman's address.
We have Bobby Rush donning glasses and a hoodie on the floor of Congress, shamelessly trying to escalate tensions, and having to be forced from the floor.
Trayvon protesters ransack store   http://www.local10.c...pz/-/index.html
I tell you, the usual suspects are going to force something very bad to happen, and they don't care.

Edited by Stormlover, 28 March 2012 - 11:09 AM.

[Blizzard1]

Ok, so I'm STILL waiting for any shred of evidence, yes I'm setting the bar very low, which will substantiate claims made against the Sanford police department wanting Zimmerman to remain free, much less wanting to do this to keep tensions rising. How about I present some evidence to the contrary? From a report I just saw on CNN(of all places), the initial police investigator recommended Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter and it was the STATE ATTORNEY'S office who said there was not enough evidence to prosecute at the time. So now are we supposed to believe it's a conspiracy involving Zimmerman and the state's attorney? If so, damn he sure does have friends in high places. Really, this happens a LOT. The police feel they have something while the prosecutors don't feel the bar has been reached. So yet again, EVERYONE is best served to step back and let the system work and correct itself should the evidence necessitate.

Edited by Blizzard1, 28 March 2012 - 01:47 PM.

[Stormlover]

Alveda King calls out Sharpton and Jackson for their race card playing
http://dailycaller.c...trayvon-martin/

sorry P.O.S. Spike Lee, who put out a tweet with an address hoping for vigilate justice, and had the wrong address, so an elderly couple with nothing to do with it has had to leave their home out of fear. And the ****** won't even apologize.

Edited by Stormlover, 28 March 2012 - 02:31 PM.

[ams30721us]

Stormlover, on 28 March 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

Alveda King calls out Sharpton and Jackson for their race card playing
http://dailycaller.c...trayvon-martin/

sorry P.O.S. Spike Lee, who put out a tweet with an address hoping for vigilate justice, and had the wrong address, so an elderly couple with nothing to do with it has had to leave their home out of fear. And the ****** won't even apologize.

Ha that is funny coming from you the one who is posting White Supremacist ptopaganda on this website trying to smear an innocent 17 yr old kid who was doing nothing wrong. But by all means keep protecting the guy with violent background.

Oh btw, for a guy being beaten within inches of his life maybe people should take a look at the video of Zimmerman from that night. Seriously....Who has had a broken nose? No blood all over the shirt or jacket? No marks anywhere...Yea...he really got his head beaten into the pavement several times...Guess we know now why he did not need medical attention that night.

[ams30721us]

Wow, the lead investigator on the scene from that night wanted to charge Zimmerman with murder because he did not believe his story? hmmm shocker

[ams30721us]

Stormlover, on 27 March 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

Media Matter exec apologizes for blasting Drudge for posting picture. Seems like that side is all about emotion and anger.
http://www.foxnews.c...-trayvon-photo/

A family attorney on TV says they are not ashamed of his past and not trying to get any sort of gag order, so that should be good enough for any on here that don't like more current pictures, or his tweets, or information about his three school suspensions, etc. coming out. This is no reason for him to be shot, but goes to the point that he may not have been all innocent in this case as they want you to believe.

Spike Lee is a sorry P.O.S.
http://dailycaller.c.../#ixzz1qL0ZcWZH

This is the regular bullcrap from some continuing. It proves nothing about him being innocent that night. Second off why do you keep digging up and posting about the past of an A and B honor roll student who has NO criminal record?? That makes no sense. Why not post the relevant criminal background of Zimmerman who is not only a Criminal but a man with Violence being something he has a habit of committing. This is what amazes me about trying to keep bringing up this kids school records.