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[Blizzard1]

I have to add and point out again what has been said. You could take the ABSOLUTE WORST things Rush has said, heck probably the combination of all of them, and his side of the ledger is woefully inadequate when stacked against a fraction of what Jeremiah Wright has said. We can focus on the 9/11 reference alone..."Chickens coming home to roost", HOW FREAKING VILE! 3,000+ innocent citizens were slaughtered and Wright wants to claim that as if by being a citizen of the United States, they basically "took one for the team" since "the team" had it coming in his own warped way of thinking. What a sick, sick, twisted mindset!

[Stormlover]

Meanwhile, Obamacare has caused the first University to drop insurance. I'm sure those folks really appreciate the Dems meddling in their situation, and Obama trying to force things on them.
"I would’ve never imagined that at this day in age in America that the federal government would compel us to do something against our religious beliefs." -Franciscan University VP of advancement
http://foxnewsinside...omic-injustice/

[Cyclogent]

Stormlover, on 16 May 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

Meanwhile, Obamacare has caused the first University to drop insurance. I'm sure those folks really appreciate the Dems meddling in their situation, and Obama trying to force things on them.
"I would’ve never imagined that at this day in age in America that the federal government would compel us to do something against our religious beliefs." -Franciscan University VP of advancement
http://foxnewsinside...omic-injustice/

Nice to see the Catholic Church stand up to the tyrannical behavior of our Federal Government. Plenty more denominations out there with private colleges and universities...would be great if they all stand up and fight against ObamaCare OcommyCare

By the way, this comment that someone posted below that article is a +10000000
Funny how people like Missi B Quickie insist the right to an abortion is only up to the woman, but expect everyone else to pay for it! What hypocrisy! Sorry, it doesn't work that way. When you have your hand in MY pocket, You've invited my input into your choices! If you ask me to buy you a car, I get to say when and how you get to drive it, and if you don't like it, you either pay for it yourself or you give me back the keys! Simple as that! People like her want it both ways! :oP

[Stormlover]

[Stormlover]

[Blizzard1]

Stormlover, on 16 May 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

But...but...but what about all those jobs Obama has created?  

[Stormlover]

Blizzard1, on 16 May 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

But...but...but what about all those jobs Obama has created?  

Rightttttt...
and his budget didn't get a single vote, 0-99 in the Senate today, on top of not getting a single vote in the house, yet he wants us to continue down his road?
That's 513-0 against his budget!
http://nation.foxnew...get-fails-0-513

[Bhamwxfan]

Ghost, on 16 May 2012 - 06:47 AM, said:

• My point is ...blah blah blah

I can tell you didn't read my post at all, except where I pointed out your hypocrisy. And you didn't even get that right. I'm not going to get into this never ending circle of a debate with you, where you just repeat yourself and expect me to do the same. Not gonna happen. The answer to all of your questions is in my previous post. Read it, don't read it. I don't care either way.

[Stormlover]

LOL, what a fail  this was by Obama and gang

Edited by Stormlover, 16 May 2012 - 10:31 PM.

[NotoriousD]

Blizzard1, on 16 May 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

But...but...but what about all those jobs Obama has created?  

Anyone who takes that chart at face value doesn't care about facts.  The stat you should be looking at is the change in the unemployment rate for each president.  It fell under Clinton from 7.3% to 4.2%.  It rose under Bush from 4.2% to 7.8%.  It has risen from 7.8% to 8.1% under Obama but has dropped almost 2% since the peak in fall 2009.

Edited by NotoriousD, 16 May 2012 - 10:35 PM.

[Stormlover]

NotoriousD, on 16 May 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

Anyone who takes that chart at face value doesn't care about facts.  The stat you should be looking at is the change in the unemployment rate for each president.  It fell under Clinton from 7.3% to 4.2%.  It rose under Bush from 4.2% to 7.8%.  It has risen from 7.8% to 8.1% under Obama but has dropped almost 2% since the peak in fall 2009.

He has been in way over 3 years, and spent trillions. Massive fail, or you don't care about facts. Presidents don't get reelected with 8% unemployment,and you know as well as me, that the real number should be much higher. If things start to fall towards 7.5 even, more will enter the workforce and knock the number up some again, unless there are funny numbers coming, and I wouldn't doubt it. Obamacare and tons of new regulations and paperwork are keeping things from taking off, as this is the worse "recovery" if you want to call it that, we've had.
P.S. Still waiting on your list of things Obama has accomplished and why he deserves reelection.

Edited by Stormlover, 16 May 2012 - 10:57 PM.

[TimHSV]

What a moron....


Obama's Budget Fails 0-513


http://nation.foxnew...get-fails-0-513

[Stormlover]

TimHSV, on 16 May 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

What a moron....


Obama's Budget Fails 0-513


http://nation.foxnew...get-fails-0-513

Yep, look up on this page. Anyway, the Dems will claim this wasn't his, but it was what he proposed. The Dems don't want to pass any budget and go on the record. Cowards. Over 1100 days since the Harry Reid Senate has passed a budget.

[Ray]

NotoriousD, on 16 May 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

Anyone who takes that chart at face value doesn't care about facts.  The stat you should be looking at is the change in the unemployment rate for each president.  It fell under Clinton from 7.3% to 4.2%.  It rose under Bush from 4.2% to 7.8%.  It has risen from 7.8% to 8.1% under Obama but has dropped almost 2% since the peak in fall 2009.

Let's see now: 2% in two and a half years, which is less than one percent a year.  Are you defending Obama with that statistic or are you chastising him?

[Blizzard1]

Ray, on 17 May 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

Let's see now: 2% in two and a half years, which is less than one percent a year.  Are you defending Obama with that statistic or are you chastising him?

And again, the 8.1% is dubious as well due to those who have left the work force. Furthermore, going back to all these supposed jobs created under Obama, what does it matter how many jobs are created if they're hemorrhaging away at a faster pace due to his antagonistic policies towards business?

[sutton82]

Stormlover, on 16 May 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

Yep, look up on this page. Anyway, the Dems will claim this wasn't his, but it was what he proposed. The Dems don't want to pass any budget and go on the record. Cowards. Over 1100 days since the Harry Reid Senate has passed a budget.

I don't care who wrote the budget.  To me this should be priority number one of the president and congress.  It's absolutely ridiculous that there is no budget.  Shameful.

[Tyler Penland]

This is just ridiculous.

http://foxnewsinside...ccomplishments/

[Ghost]

Bhamwxfan, on 16 May 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

I can tell you didn't read my post at all, except where I pointed out your hypocrisy. And you didn't even get that right. I'm not going to get into this never ending circle of a debate with you, where you just repeat yourself and expect me to do the same. Not gonna happen. The answer to all of your questions is in my previous post. Read it, don't read it. I don't care either way.

I read what you posted and addressed your points concisely in bullet form and even corrected you where you claimed I said something that I didn't.  I even posed a couple of questions for you to answer which you avoided by saying they are in your previous post, which they are not, instead of taking the opportunity to specifically address them.  I don't blame you for not wanting to continue in this discussion with me... why get into a battle when you don't have any ammo?  I wouldn't either.  Hope you are having a pleasant day.

[Ghost]

Stormlover, on 16 May 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

Judging what you don't know about Rush isn't a way to do it. You have no clue about how he lives his life, you just point out he's been married several times and got addicted to prescription drugs and believes in our way of life(capitalism). From that you try to trash him as living an unchristian life, and all of this because Rev. Wright, supposedly a minister of God and Obama's mentor for 20 years, was being criticized. Kind of falls in line with you piling on the Palins, as opposed to being against how they have been trashed unfairly. Amazing.

Most of the people 2000 years ago defended the Pharisees too... so your defense of Rush and his lifestyles and what he espouses isn't unique or surprising.  I can ask you again (but I'm sure you will avoid answering) from what you've seen of how he's lived and from what he has said on his radio and TV show... which of the fruits of the spirit has he displayed?

[Pastor of Muppets]

Barack Obama was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii eh?  Or maybe someone just failed at proofreading.

[Pastor of Muppets]

Ghost, on 17 May 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

Most of the people 2000 years ago defended the Pharisees too... so your defense of Rush and his lifestyles and what he espouses isn't unique or surprising.  I can ask you again (but I'm sure you will avoid answering) from what you've seen of how he's lived and from what he has said on his radio and TV show... which of the fruits of the spirit has he displayed?

Generosity. Charity. Compassion.

[ARCC]

Tyler Penland, on 17 May 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

This is just ridiculous.

http://foxnewsinside...ccomplishments/

Wow and I checked the actual White house website and it's legit. That may be the lowest he's fallen so far, campaigning on the pages of former Presidents....

[Matt]

ARCC, on 17 May 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Wow and I checked the actual White house website and it's legit. That may be the lowest he's fallen so far, campaigning on the pages of former Presidents....

This was referenced a day or so ago, but you are correct in asserting this is about as low as one can go.

[Blizzard1]

Matt, on 17 May 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

This was referenced a day or so ago, but you are correct in asserting this is about as low as one can go.

Yes it was but TOTALLY worth repeating! I guess to be consistent, GWB needs to be lauded for his efforts to track down Bin Laden on Obama's Bio, so when can we expect Obama to give Bush props?

[Tyler Penland]

Matt, on 17 May 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

This was referenced a day or so ago, but you are correct in asserting this is about as low as one can go.

Missed that post. Sorry!

[TimHSV]

BUSTED!! Ok your truth deniers, what ye shall say now?


The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii'

http://www.breitbart...ndonesia-Hawaii

[NotoriousD]

TimHSV, on 17 May 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

BUSTED!! Ok your truth deniers, what ye shall say now?


The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii'

http://www.breitbart...ndonesia-Hawaii

Tim, you should read your own article:

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The errant Obama biography in the Acton & Dystel booklet does not contradict the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate. Moreover, several contemporaneous accounts of Obama’s background describe Obama as having been born in Hawaii.

Edited by NotoriousD, 17 May 2012 - 05:03 PM.

[TimHSV]

NotoriousD, on 17 May 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Tim, you should read your own article:

I did...still busted. So you say this is a lie as well as ?...Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.   All he has to do is show the Original BC like any other American, and the case is closed..period.

Please tell me that you are smarter than listening to what anything the liberal MSM say's about this POTUS?

[Arcadia]

Ghost, on 17 May 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

I read what you posted and addressed your points concisely in bullet form and even corrected you where you claimed I said something that I didn't.

You didn't correct her - she corrected you. One more time from the top.  Pay attention.

Here you are talking about the teachings of Jesus and how Rush violates those teachings:

Ghost, on 13 May 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:

He will reference Christian values and tie them to American values to reign in Christians into his listening audience and live a lifestyle of total opposite of the teachings of Jesus..  He fits the mold of the rich hypocrites that Jesus was constantly rebuking in the Gospels.  I used to think he was great, until I started weighing what he said and did with the values taught by my Savior... then I understood him for what he is.

Bhamwxfan responded with:

Bhamwxfan, on 15 May 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

Wow, you completely misunderstood Rush's point about wealth and the desire for it. It's not "greed" he touts, it's the desire each and every individual has to continually work to better his own situation and quality of life. To work harder to reap greater rewards. Nobody who has a paying job goes to work each day solely for the satisfaction of a job well done. Money is required in modern society not only to survive, but also to experience much of life. It's the opposite of socialism in which there is no reward save for basic survival. I believe this answers bullet point #2

I don't know about Rush's personal life or his marriages, and even if I did it's not my place to judge. For those of you who believe, God will sort them out in the end.

And he didn't "take drugs" in an aspiration to become addicted. He had a health issue which required the use of narcotic pain medication, which he became addicted to after taking. It's no secret that this is a common effect when taking such medications, and that such addictions are not above anyone. This happens to athletes, doctors, lawyers, and people of all socioeconomic, racial and religious backgrounds. Addiction does not discriminate, so you can put away your ivory tower. It must be nice to be completely without sin such as you are.

To which you responded with:

Ghost, on 15 May 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

No.. that would be Rush up in the Ivory Tower...

And Bhamwxfan answeres back with:

Bhamwxfan, on 15 May 2012 - 11:38 PM, said:

So, Rush made a comment several years before his own addiction. Then almost 10 years later was accused and arrested, but not convicted of violating the law. His prescriptions were written by licensed physicians and his medication was obtained legally.

What's your point?

My point is that you've misrepresented his statements about the drive and desire for people to pursue the American Dream by classifying that as greed. That you've declared his misuse of the teachings of Jesus while you've become his own personal moral judge which, according to the teachings of Jesus, is not for you to determine. Here, she is responding to your first post where you are saying how Rush lives in total opposition to Jesus' teachings. And that you've classified his drug use as if it were something he sought to do with complete disregard for the law to the point of becoming addicted, displaying that you clearly don't know anything about Rush's addiction to pain medication, or about addiction at all in general.

You can keep pointing that finger at someone else while insinuating that they are hypocrites, while doing so is ironically making you the hypocritical one.

And then this where you list your "bullet points" but let's concentrate on bullet #3 where you said:

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• I never said anything about him misusing the teachings of Jesus. Show me where I did. I don't know if he's ever expounded on the teachings of Jesus on his radio or former TV shows.. do you know if he has? I don't. But I do know he hitches himself to Christian values and reels in a lot of Christian fundamentalists and evangelicals with that tactic.. but I go back to what I said a few pages back when I mentioned comparing the qualities exhibited by his life... Jeremiah Wright's.. (and all of us) to the Fruits of the Spirit mentioned in Galatians. Which of those Fruits does Rush emphasis in his lifestyle?

Reading that I almost feel like I've taken a bottle full of crazy pills. Now, I believe this is where Bhamwxfan throws up her arms and says forget it because she's not going to keep repeating herself, and you reply with some comment about her coming to debate with no ammo, which is rather ironic coming from you.  You completely missed the point she was making, which isn't surprising since you barely pay attention the words that come out of your own mouth.

Hope you are having a pleasant day.

[silver_lining]

NotoriousD, on 17 May 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Tim, you should read your own article:

Thank you Michael Moore,


Now read it and put it all together.