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#1 Dotty

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 04:29 AM

Hi, I had to ask, I've just seen this term in your main forum. I Googled it and got as far as it means "heavy rain" but I'm still curious on where it came from and how widely its used, lol!
Basically I noticed when I Googled you have a place in Alabama called Frog, did it originate from there?
Also is it only used in Alabama or is it a southern thing or even an American saying?
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 04:44 AM

I'm not very fluent in Southern American slang, but I'll do the best I can for you.

As I understand it, a "frog strangler" is a rain that is so heavy, even water-loving frogs have trouble breathing in it. I think this is an exaggeration similar to "raining cats and dogs". I do think that this is a Southern phrase, although I could be wrong.

Hope this helps!

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 04:49 AM

I just reread your post, and I realize I left off a part or two (I've been awake for almost 17 hours; I do apologize).

As far as I know, the origination does not come from Frog, AL, but it does originate with the amphibian.

I've not heard it used in the Midwest, Southwest, or West Coast (places I've traveled extensively), so it may very well be an Alabama thing, or at least Southeastern United States.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 06:11 AM

Actually, the term is "toad strangler". I have never heard it referred to as "frog strangler". I could find nothing to explain it, but am wondering if it refers to the fact that toads breathe through their skin. Perhaps if caught unprotected in a long, heavy rain they literally drown by strangulation.
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 06:15 AM

QUOTE(Vic @ Jun 7 2007, 6:11 am)  
Actually, the term is "toad strangler". I have never heard it referred to as "frog strangler". I could find nothing to explain it, but am wondering if it refers to the fact that toads breathe through their skin. Perhaps if caught unprotected in a long, heavy rain they literally drown by strangulation.

That is true for amphibians. They need moist skin through which to aspire, but if kept underwater too long where their air lungs can't breathe, they will drown.

And I'm icon_redface.gif for not catching "toad" vs "frog". As I said, I'm not fluent in Southern.
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 06:42 AM

QUOTE(Vic @ Jun 7 2007, 7:11 am)  
Actually, the term is "toad strangler". I have never heard it referred to as "frog strangler". I could find nothing to explain it, but am wondering if it refers to the fact that toads breathe through their skin. Perhaps if caught unprotected in a long, heavy rain they literally drown by strangulation.



Thats interesting, as I've never heard "toad strangler", always "frog strangler". Some of the politically correct crowd would say it is actually "amphibian strangler" just to make southerners mad!
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 07:35 AM

I've never heard of either, but my yankee girlfriend will think it's funny icon_lol.gif
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 07:36 AM

Semi on topic. My hometown was originally called Frog Pond. It's a shame that one didn't stick around icon_cool.gif
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 08:11 AM

Just some quick facts..

Frogs are smooth and slimy and spend most of their lives around water.

Toads are the rough, dry and warty looking fellers and live on land most of the time.

According to the internet...:

Frogs and toads breathe and take in moisture through their skin through a process called cutaneous gas exchange. But they also have lungs as well. When they are submurged under water or buried in soil during hibernation they only breathe through their skin.

So, I guess in theory there is no way to strangle a frog/toad just with water.
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 09:26 AM

Thanks for the explainations icon_biggrin.gif I'm going to wait for my next frog strangler now although with the amount of rainfall we have here, the frogs (toads) can breathe easy for a while yet icon_wink.gif
Duck, I like that name for a town. I thought we had some strange ones too!
PS I'm glad no toads/ frogs are hurt.
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 09:31 AM

Never heard of toad strangler, but frog strangler was a normal part of NoAL weather talk in my childhood.
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 09:39 AM

Hey Dotty! The South of the US of A has more colloquialisms than just about any part of the country. Here's a few more for you, with the word in caps and the explanation of how we use it in lowercase.

AIM TO- plan to do
AIRISH- cold
BIGGITY- vain and overbearing
BITTY BIT- a small amount
CARRY ON- to carry on foolishness
CLODHOPPER- heavy work shoes or large shoes
CHUNK- throw, toss
'COON- Raccoon.
COW LICK- hair standing out on one's head.
DIRECTLY- in a little while, or a couple of weeks
DIXIE- Southern States of the U.S.A
DO-HICKY- substitute name. Like the terms whata-ma-call-it or thinga-ma-jig
FALLING OUT- disagreement
FEISTY- being frisky
FIXING TO- about to
HEY- hello
HOLD YOUR HORSES- (be patient)
HONEY- affectionate term
LAID UP- ill, hurt, unable to work
MESS-one who carries on, "He's a mess."
MUCH OBLIGED- thank you; hope to return the favor
PIDDLE- waste time, doing nothing
PLAYING POSSUM- playing dead
RECKON- think or supose so.
SHINDIG- dance or celebration
SMOKEHOUSE- Shed with a dirt floor where pork and other meats is cured, and then smoked.
SORRY- inferior quality, worthless, and lazy
SOUTHERN BELLE- Southern lady
SPRING CHICKEN- young thing
SWEET TALKING THING- has a good line
TIGHT- stingy with money
WAIT ON- serve or assist
WART-TAKER-one who removes warts by charms or incantations
WHITE LIGHTNING- moonshine whiskey
WORRY-WART- one who is annoying
YA'LL or Y'ALL (can be spelled both ways)- you all, two or more people


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Posted 07 June 2007 - 09:43 AM

And I have to add one of my personal favorites. When something in Alabama is spilled, we say it "tumped over". As in, "Check out that dump truck in the ditch! It tumped over!"
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 10:16 AM

QUOTE(GaTechinHSV @ Jun 7 2007, 9:31 am)  
Never heard of toad strangler, but frog strangler was a normal part of NoAL weather talk in my childhood.



You'll just have to excuse Vic. He's from Arkansas. icon_lol.gif
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 10:21 AM

QUOTE(BlountWolf @ Jun 7 2007, 9:43 am)  
And I have to add one of my personal favorites. When something in Alabama is spilled, we say it "tumped over". As in, "Check out that dump truck in the ditch! It tumped over!"

never heard of that and I was born here.Guess I need to get farther away from the "big" city icon_razz.gif
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 10:25 AM

QUOTE(Stormlover @ Jun 7 2007, 10:21 am)  
never heard of that and I was born here.Guess I need to get farther away from the "big" city icon_razz.gif


Yep! That one's even in some dictionaries.
http://education.yah...nary/entry/tump
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE(WBB @ Jun 7 2007, 10:16 am)  
You'll just have to excuse Vic. He's from Arkansas. icon_lol.gif

I heard that! ....... and in reply
You'll just have to excuse Brian. He's an LSU fan.
That should get some sympathy on my side. icon_lol.gif
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 12:06 PM

QUOTE(Vic @ Jun 7 2007, 10:50 am)  
I heard that! ....... and in reply
You'll just have to excuse Brian. He's an LSU fan.
That should get some sympathy on my side. icon_lol.gif



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Posted 07 June 2007 - 12:30 PM

QUOTE(BlountWolf @ Jun 7 2007, 10:39 am)  
Hey Dotty! The South of the US of A has more colloquialisms than just about any part of the country. Here's a few more for you, with the word in caps and the explanation of how we use it in lowercase.

AIM TO- plan to do
AIRISH- cold
BIGGITY- vain and overbearing
BITTY BIT- a small amount
CARRY ON- to carry on foolishness
CLODHOPPER- heavy work shoes or large shoes
CHUNK- throw, toss
'COON- Raccoon.
COW LICK- hair standing out on one's head.
DIRECTLY- in a little while, or a couple of weeks
DIXIE- Southern States of the U.S.A
DO-HICKY- substitute name. Like the terms whata-ma-call-it or thinga-ma-jig
FALLING OUT- disagreement
FEISTY- being frisky
FIXING TO- about to
HEY- hello
HOLD YOUR HORSES- (be patient)
HONEY- affectionate term
LAID UP- ill, hurt, unable to work
MESS-one who carries on, "He's a mess."
MUCH OBLIGED- thank you; hope to return the favor
PIDDLE- waste time, doing nothing
PLAYING POSSUM- playing dead
RECKON- think or supose so.
SHINDIG- dance or celebration
SMOKEHOUSE- Shed with a dirt floor where pork and other meats is cured, and then smoked.
SORRY- inferior quality, worthless, and lazy
SOUTHERN BELLE- Southern lady
SPRING CHICKEN- young thing
SWEET TALKING THING- has a good line
TIGHT- stingy with money
WAIT ON- serve or assist
WART-TAKER-one who removes warts by charms or incantations
WHITE LIGHTNING- moonshine whiskey
WORRY-WART- one who is annoying
YA'LL or Y'ALL (can be spelled both ways)- you all, two or more people

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This list reminds me of a Jeff Foxworty bit where he takes one word to describe southern phraseology. My all time favorite is "MAYONNAISE". Heres a sentence illustrating its corrupted use in southern culture........"........Mayonnaise lotta folks down at the ball park tonight.............. icon_razz.gif eusa_clap.gif

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